HOW DID WE GET HERE ?

I make no bones about being an American and 100% a Patriot. I love this country and I love my freedom. I know many others feel the same and talk about how they want to remain in control of their own lives yet turn right around and pay homage to the control of breeding by government officials.

If I have learned one thing from life it is that diversity is what made this country great. People who were FREE to pursue their dreams in any manner they felt would work for them. They fought for freedom and the worked hard to succeed. They believe in the power of each one to live their life without threat of censorship.

I find this to be a conflict of personal beliefs and other things said by some individuals who spout we should have breed wardens and rules to dictate who can, should or should not be allowed to breed or tell them what dogs they could breed. They speak loudly how diversity is the best indicator of health while not having the first clue on how it happens and even less understanding to the condition of Doberman breeding in American or Europe so let’s take a look at it.

Let’s look at some indicators and see where each stands - On average if I read the results correctly European Doberman’s come in at 50% or higher on the diversity scale and American Doberman’s come in at 40% on average. So if the German rule works so well, I have to ask what has it done to the gene pool as far as preserving diversity??? It is claimed that the DV has done a better job producing Doberman’s that work, YET they also claim that the show line Europeans don’t work just like the American show line. So I have to ask if they are all required to pass a fit for breeding test why the distinct difference in the “show Lines” and ‘working lines”?

I have to ask if the DV fit for breeding test is required for every Doberman sire and dam than why aren’t they all working dogs??? This tells me that in effect there are flaws in our thinking on who to breed and no one way to judge correct the best of the best since that is the goal for breeding.

I will probably be called a heretic for saying this, but I feel we were far better off in the 70’s when approximately 80,000 Dobermans were registered a year right here in America. Iit seems every breed at some point goes through a wave of popularity where anyone and everyone jumps into breeding them. It seems to reason that diversity would be high under these circumstances. . So what happened?

Showing in and of itself will restrict breeding to only the best. In and of itself that is not wrong, but it is very limiting if you consider 100 Dobermans in a show and only one will be champion. Compound the problem as everyone wants to breed to the champion then you immediately have a problem with the popular sire who will multiply any genetic problems he might carry as well as create a problem with diversity.

Another reason is AKC discovered that breeders were withholding AKC registration papers in order to “protect” their breeding program when they sent a puppy to a pet home. Then the pet family decided to breed and you can imagine the rest, they wanted to register their litter. AKC wants purebred dogs registered to keep themselves in business. Limited registration gave breeders a way to register pet puppies and still preserve some control over breeding and AKC got their money..

I must mention the AR (animal radicals) whose sole purpose is to stop all breeding, eating or working of all animals. We have caved in to their radical views and tried to appease them to the point that we are afraid to stand up and proudly say we are breeders and we have sadly adopted a lot of their rhetoric and thinking - spay/neuter contracts, we now place puppies as opposed to “sell” them and we have falling into the “parent” child trap thinking our dogs are not dogs who were bred with a purpose and should be allowed to perform their job at some level.

Now we have less than 10,000 Doberman registered a year last time AKC released numbers which I think was about 2009. Consider half of those are on spay/neuter contacts and limited registration that cuts down the gene pool to about 5,000 dogs that could be available for breeding and that is a very conservative estimate. We limit that further to only champions or titled dogs and you can surely see where diversity went.

I hate to even mention all the biting and backstabbing by the “Show Snob” crowd who will chew you up and spit you out without a second thought to the future of the breed. I have seen people who complain about the rudeness of show people and as soon as they achieve a title they are right there with them pointing fingers at new people and treating them just a bad as the “snob crowd” they complained against. This is very discouraging to anyone who is serious about breeding.

It does make one ask the question: “ how we got so far off track with such good intentions?”One thing we know for sure is diversity went out the window.

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The Quest for Health or the BIG lie

Today we are several years down the road with the new diversity DNA studies and programs. What have we gained??? What have we learned and where do we go from here???

Those are not easy questions as we tread lightly with this relative new technology and as I have seen with so many new testing procedures the gene pool suffers. It would be so easy if we could make cold hard statements that affect health and they were always true, but that is not the case. Up to this point every time we have jumped one direction we find we jump into another problem that we did not foresee.

Am I against testing – ABSOLUTELY NOT. What I am against is using any one health test to eliminate any breeding dog from the gene pool. Doberman already have a very small gene pool and there are those who believe the breed is already doomed. I personally do not feel that way because we still have Dobermans who live to a good old age although it will never be long enough.

Yes I have lost a lot of faith in science, vets, AVMA, FCI, AKC and other organizations ASPCA, HSUS and on and on it goes. They may all start out with good intentions, but it always comes out that the dogs often loose and those running these programs just get richer.

For example we have titer test to determine immunity for diseases that we have vaccinated or not. The titer test shows if a dog has immunity still active from any vaccine or exposure to a disease. Yet in spite of this ever 12 months your vet sends you a nice little reminder card to come in and get your “annual” vaccinations regardless of the problems that they are well aware of with over vaccination.

How do you trust people who ignore the science and dupe pet owners who are not as knowledgeable as a breeder on the proper protocols??? For too long we have trusted the science or in some cases been pressured to do what we felt was not good for the breed. A long time ago a very wise breeder of many years told me if you have a problem you have to breed through it. You will not solve it by stopping breeding and you won’t solve it by radically eliminating dogs that would help maintain more diversity in our gene pool.

So why are we here with such a small gene pool because we trusted the science and we believed they had our dogs best interest at heart. I will use Vwd as a prime example. A minor problem in Dobermans yet in the early 1990’s when the test first came out they sold it on FEAR – your dog is going to DIE so you must know the Vwd status or you dog can get a small bump on the leg and bleed to death. DEATH does sell. Now we are seeing the exact same thing with the DCM1 and DCM2 genes. In fact if test your dog through one of the popular DNA diversity companies you will get a DEATH letter stating your dog is going to die of DCM. Below is a email I wrote to Embark regarding this Death letter:

“I am writing regarding an e mail I received that was basically presented as a "death" sentence to one of my dogs that tested positive for one of the DNA mutations that Embark test for.  First I was very glad that I am going on 30 years of breeding Dobermans or I would have fainted or had a stroke.  
The entire Embark "AT RISK" designation is very misleading in almost every single instance as there is no solid proof that any of the mutations tested for are an absolute death sentence even for the homozogous dogs.  It is fear mongering at its best and for those who are not as knowledgeable as most breeders, would feel devastated in receiving such a negative letter.

You want the support of breeders, you need the support of breeders, if you truly want families of Dobermans to test, as that would increase your odds of finding something that actually might be helpful.  I started testing all puppies in my litters, but am now questioning the wisdom of that decision when I have to spend hours reassuring a family that their puppy is no more at risk than any other Doberman out there and that to get money researchers use fear tactics to make one think their dog will die tomorrow.  I have a history of decen tlongevity in my lines well before all this testing jumped on the scene so I do have a little experience and knowledge.

While I understand you may consider this a CYA (cover your ass) strategy,  it is not truthful, honest or professional to state something in such a factual manner that you know you can't prove.  But it will go a long way in destroying your credibility with breeders .  You already have an explanation of what clear, carrier or affected means, so a simple negative, heterozygous (which in most cases in no way indicates any problem at all, or homozygous should be sufficient to CYA.

As a breeder who does care about health testing and the future of the breed, I have been sorely disappointed up to this point in the actual negative impact of these DNA mutations.  But what the fear mongering did accomplish is a radical reduction of our gene pool, as those who did not have more sense or knowledge did not consider the negative impact to our breed as they radically remove good dogs from the gene pool.   All of this over things that can be easily controlled  through the testing ithout decimating the gene pool.”

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 The Art of Breeding the Purebred Doberman

As I read different FB groups it continues to make me painfully aware that with all the information on the super highway there are still WAY too many uneducated folks regarding the art of breeding purebred dogs.

I honestly don’t know how there can be such a break down or misunderstanding of what purebred should really mean. For me first and foremost is someone wants a specific dog usually for its looks as that is what first attracks us. We have the Westminster kennel club show each year that is televised where people can see hundreds of different breeds presented at their very best. Then go out and try to find a dog on Craigs list that is the breed they want.

Some things to notice is that usually the dogs sold on all these pet sites and Craigslist are very poor representatives of any breed. WHY??? Because Back yard breeders otherwise referred to as BYB have no clue about the standard of their breed and certainly don’t care about producing quality, health or correct temperament because that cost money. Either they are themselves uneducated about the quality that should go along with purebred or they only care about the money.

In America, Doberman Pinscher Club of America (DPCA) is our national Breed club for the Doberman. The correct standard for the Doberman is set by DPCA and AKC. You can find that standard here: https://dpca.org/breed/breed-standard/. Anyone who is interested in breeding purebred dogs of any kind should be aware that all breeds MUST have a standard that exactly describes the correct dog that represents their breed and should READ the standard and do their best to follow it

Because our breed is a working breed, I feel it is even more important that breeders know the standard and breed to the standard. While we will never produce the perfect dog we want to at least be in the wheel house. The standard describes both the correct look (build, structure, color, mouth, feet, eyes) temperament (confident, energetic, alert, fearless, loyal, trainable) and good health.

Why would you want to breed less that what the standard calls for??? MONEY just because it says “purebred” it is sellable and if you don’t do all the health testing, training and showing to KNOW that the dog meets the standard you make a lot more money without doing anything for the breed.

A true breeder has a strong passion for their breed. They want to do the best they can to properly represent their breed. They are members of the breed club because they want to learn more and do better. Purebred is the gold standard and it is far more than AKC registration. It goes way beyond purebred registration.

Demand MORE of your breeder. Good breeders are already doing more and they are up for the hard questions. They are up to producing a dog that looks and performs as the standard describes. It just makes sense to me that a breeder should be held to a higher standard – be a member of their breed club and know the standard their breeding program should strive to meet. Don’t be fooled by a pretty web site. Dig further, talk to several breeders and please don’t just buy the first puppy you find that is available. Good breeders have a waiting list and believe you me it is worth having a little patience and waiting for the right puppy.  There are no bargains in purebred. Purebred should stand for quality, purebred, bred to the standard and titled and health tested.

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